1. Hi Getoutside. I don't have a problem w/people playing w/their dogs/kids on the playfield. I asked some other parents/dog owners if they thought it was ok if we were on the edge of the field and they said 'yes'. But of course, they were on the field too. I think the sign is mostly for large groups of people, like soccer/football/frisbee players? I always feel guilty when my son runs down the hill...but he only weighs 27 lbs and his feet are only about 5 inches long.

    Maybe if they REALLY wanted to keep EVERYONE off the field, they'd fence it off like they did at Woodland Park Zoo...it wouldn't even have to be a chain link fence. I think if it was simply roped off that would make it more clear to everyone.

    I'm not a yeller so I don't know if it's easier to yell about a dog or kids.

  2. Parks has tried roping it off, fencing it off and signs. They all usually get torn down. Maintenance prefers the signs because they are easier to move out of the way for mowing and seeding. Unfortunately, signs are also easier to move out of the way by teams.

    The intent is to inform the public that play on the field when it is soft is not recommended (and is trespassing). Folks need to gauge their impact. Playing catch = low impact. A couple tossing a frisbee = low impact. Street shoes = low impact. Off-leash dogs = large impact. Large group sports = large impact. Large groups with cleats = obscene impact.

    We only do it to ourselves. Parks has informed us what is necessary to keep the field in decent condition for play later in the year. Groups that ignore the signs are just being selfish. DiscNW asks that you report any ultimate groups playing on a closed field to them. It is punishable by being banned from the field. They police themselves this way.

    It is especially disconcerting to see school groups using the field when it is posted closed. Besides the wear and tear that makes the field less usable during prime season, what message does it teach our kids to have teachers tell them it is okay to ignore the signs posted by the agency in charge?

  3. Hmmm, I've never seen groups of school kids use the field, but that's awful! You're right Greg, it is not teaching kids about respect for the law/rules. I was really surprised to see so many people use the field a couple of weeks ago (on a weekend) when the weather was nice. When we go during the week, there's only a few people using the field. Most of the dog owners we've talked to have been extremely friendly.

  4. Dogs on Wallingford Playfield: Two years ago I adopted a rescue dog. He was a country dog, and I was working on getting him accustomed to city life. I never let him off leash except in a dog park, because that is illegal. For good reason. But every morning after dropping my child off at Hamiliton I did walk him, on leash, at the Wallingford playfield, to work on commands, especially "Heel." However, I was ultimately driven from the playfield by owners who insisted that it was their prerogative to run their loose dogs there.

    These loose dogs would come up and try to fight with my poor dog, who being on leash, felt defenseless. So I started insisting that dog owners leash their dogs. I told them that not doing so was illegal and that if they did not leash their dogs, I would call Animal Control. This often worked, but I was nastily insulted many times. Finally the problem got so bad I gave up approaching the owners first and just called Animal Control before I even spoke to them. Having made the call, I would then tell the owners that Animal Control had been called and they needed to leash their dogs. At this, many dog owners became not just insulting, but quite hostile. Two or three times this actually escalated to verbal threats. Those times I called the police. The dog owners left when they saw the squad car coming.

    Finally, I realized that lax enforcement of leash laws (which I myself was unwilling to violate) together with the arrogant attitude of many dog owners who seem to think that they are above the law meant that, as a practical matter, I would never be able to acclimatize my country-born rescue dog to city life. My dog was miserable being on leash while other dogs ran free and I was a wreck from trying to protect him from loose dogs all around Wallingford, but especially in the playfield.

    Because the playfield was so difficult, I tried to take my dog daily to the Green Lake off leash area. But that is over run by commercial dog walkers who come with numerous dogs and don't pay attention to any of them. In fact,some of the people who let their dogs off leash at the Wallingford playfield told me that the Green Lake dog park was impossible to use because of this situation. Like them, I also found that at the Green Lake dog park, dogs would bother my dog and no one was anywhere around to deal with the situation. Typically the commercial dog walker was sitting on a bench,talking on a cell phone and drinking a latte, paying no attention whatever to the numerous dogs in their care.

    Finally, after many struggles to find a way to keep my dog in the city, I gave up and found a farm situation for him. I am still grieving, because I loved him a lot. I miss him terribly. I feel that dog owners who refuse to obey the leash law and dog walkers who violate the dog park rules (which do require that you supervise your dogs, ALL your dogs) deprived me of my dog. I think this is a situation born of thoughtlessness and selfishness. It's no way to live in an urban community.

  5. Hi Deborah, I really liked your post. I forgot about the law abiding owners who keep their dogs on leashes. I walked shelter dogs for 2 years (at Crossroads Park in Bellevue) and I know dogs act differently while on leashes. I remember walking a black lab and a pit bull (off leash) came charging at us. The owner said his dog was friendly and called him off. Nevertheless, I was scared.

    I am really sorry you had to rehome your beloved dog. It sounds like you did the right thing. Is SAC good about responding to calls? Do you think having another off leash area in the Wallingford area would help? Does SAC regularly patrol off leash areas? Would writing to our City Council help?

  6. The "law does not apply to me" attitude is not just some off-leash dog owners, but many other groups, including the Ultimate Frisbee folks, the school Ultimate teams and the Woodland Soccer groups, who all were using the field last week though posted Closed. The soccer and some Ultimate folks were wearing cleats. It is sad, selfish, sets a horrible example for our kids, and creates a domino "If they use it, why shouldn't I" effect.

    One solution to more off-leash areas is to create private areas, funded by non-profits, as other cities have done. If I recall correctly, former Councilmember Drago suggested this back in 1994 as a means to augment the off-leash areas in Parks.

    The Wallingford community has consistently expressed interest in keeping Wallingford Playfield as an open field, as long as I can remember (at least 18 years). Such a space can be used for a wide assortment of "passive-use" activities including Frisbee, catch, flying a kite, having a picnic, soccer, volleyball, badminton, reading a book, etc. The east end of the field was specifically sloped to facilitate so-called "passive uses" (Parks code for non-scheduled play) when the field was regraded in 1999.

    I do not understand the "you can't make me stop without the cops" attitude. Perhaps it is a sign of the times and some folks will persist in taking until there is nothing left to give and the field dies. On the other hand, imagine a little self-restraint that conserves the field for the benefit of all. Just wishful thinking? It doesn't have to be.

  7. Based on this conversation, I think that Wallingford Park is missing a much needed off leash area. It does not have to be big. Why not create a small fenced in area on the side of the field for this purpose? It would solve a LOT of problems. How can we make this happen?!

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