Punk taggers, stickerers, and those who do not follow the city guidelines of what is allowed and just do what they want to our poles in Wallingford should know this. My aim is to have all postering on both sides of the 2300 block of N. 45th St. down within 24 hours. That karate studio on Stone Wy should know that NO ADVERTISING is allowed by this method. "My" control box on the SE corner of 45th & Sunnyside was tagged again last night The city # to call to remove graffiti is 206-684-7587. And who are those idiots with the snowplow garbage?
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Agreed. Everyone should clean their poles at least once a day.
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Burks, do you pull down Wallyhood signs, too? Someone does it as quickly as I can get them up. It's frustrating, because for a small community resource like this, there aren't a lot of ways to get the word out in the neighborhood. Posters on telephone poles are a simple way to communicate with neighbors.
Many of us use this as a way to connect with the people around us. By taking it on yourself to remove this line of communication, you become the arbiter of what people in the neighborhood are allowed to communicate about. Doesn't that feel wrong to you? There are literally hundreds of people that would not be plugged into this community resource except that they saw it on a telephone pole. Who are you to decide that they should have to sit alone in their homes, cut off from conversations and activity going on around them?
Why do you dislike posters on telephone poles so much?
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The postering ban was repealed in 2002. Advertising of any kind is allowed on utility and light poles, following a few restrictions. (no wood, no glue, certain size, etc.) So yeah Burks, have at it against tags and stickers and anything on your favorite control box, but signs tacked to utility poles or taped to light poles are perfectly legal. So quit ripping them down.
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I do not want our neighborhood to look like Ballard.
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We missed our chance when Seattle didn't vote Sidran for mayor.
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I don't want our neighborhood to look like Bellevue.
It seems the rest of us decided we didn't want to live in that kind of city. So yeah, I guess you did miss your chance. -
Careful; remember he's armed.
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Pesky votes. Let's ignore them and censor the kinds of communication we don't like.
Did you pull down the signs for the Senior Center Fundraiser, too? If yes, then how did you decide that "not looking like Ballard" was more important than providing our seniors with a place to go during the days? If no, then does that mean you, personally, get to decide what's appropriate and what isn't?
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I love a good advert. on a light pole!
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Do not hang posters on "Stop" or "Yield" sign posts or on the backs of those signs.
Do not hang posters on structures such as trees, signal control boxes, street furniture, bus shelters, bicycle racks, or art. Remember: poles and posts: 'yes'; other structures 'no'.
Don't design your posters to mimic traffic control signs.
Don't hang posters facing the same direction as traffic control signs on the same pole or post.
Don't hang signs that flash, or have any rotating parts, or wind-animated objects, or lights or video display.
Don't make your signs out of wood, metal, or heavy plastic.
Posters over posters are not allowed. Posters can be only one layer thick. This avoids build-up of posters.
Don't use glue or nails or staples larger than 3/8 inch and 0.050 gauge to hang posters.
Don't hang your posters higher than 7 feet above the ground.
Don't leave your posters up beyond their expiration date and grace period -
THere ARE rules about posting and now all who read this have them. As the Stranger once commented on this issue; putting them up is a 1st amendment right and so is taking them down. I am not alone and have about 4 others who help. I was once by Walt's muffler shop and an employee let me know this. He also gave me permission to use their dumpster. Let's just encourage those SUMMER JOBS, CAMPAIGN JOBS, and other scams, (why is it that when they put those up there's one tab torn off?) just turn into litter. It makes my day when I look out the window and see them at work. I do not confront. Just wait until they are out of sight and remove...LOVE IT!
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I bet you're fun at parties.
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So your assertion is that it's your right to decide what everyone else sees. That you speak for the neighborhood, Burks' rules rule all. Just want to be clear that you've declared yourself King of Wallingford. All hail everyone, Burks knows what's best for us.
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I kinda like the posters on telephone poles. It gives 'em some character, even the political ones that I don't necessarily agree with. But in the event I would ever lose my dog, I'd hope that his "missing" poster would stay up until he is safely found.
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The thing I don't understand is the level of anger related to signs on poles... I mean, I have lived here for 12 years and haven't really even noticed them. It seems to me that if you have some excess passion, there are numerous outlets that would have a more positive impact on the community. How about the beer cans and plastic bags in the bushes? What about the people driving 40 mph down the side streets where our kids walk to school? Tagging sucks, especially acid on glass that can't be painted over, but signs on poles? I figure they are usually either a) honestly important to somebody (lost cat, wallet, etc.), b) actually relevant to a segment of the population (i.e. 2-for-1 tuesday's at Murphy's), or c) basically junk mail that you ignore.
Oh yeah, the inverse of a "right" is not a "right" (i.e. "putting them up is a 1st amendment right and so is taking them down") but rather a denial of a right (that is why we don't consider censorship a "right").
After writing this, I realize that my contribution here is not really constructive as it is really more about venting my frustration than engaging in productive dialog, and I really should delete it... but it is late... and what is wrong with Ballard anyway?
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why is street art constantly blasted but corporate advertising- throwing unrealistic ideas at a populace that generally laps it up is not only ignored but encouraged?
If you want to live in a dark, cold, colorless, concrete world then move to a goddamn prison or cold war USSR or something.
Don't Fear Art
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"putting them up is a 1st amendment right and so is taking them down"
Burks, this is dead wrong. Putting them up is a first amendment right, and you are free to put up your own sign stating that you don't like signs. However, it is not legal for you to take down another person's sign unless it has passed its expiration date.
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I just called Dave Dahl at the Seattle Department of Transportation, who said officially, the ordinance only addresses the removal of illegally-posted signs (and then only says that the city may remove them), but that he would consider the removal of a legally-posted sign by another party to be theft, and would call the police. He equated this to stealing an A-board sign from in front of a business.
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Thanks, ao!
Know your rights!
(See 15.48.105) -
None of the signs I remove are legally posted.
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Oh my god -- who knew that only street signs would attract more comments than dog poop? People -- surely we can find better ways to focus our energy?
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<<but that he would consider the removal of a legally-posted sign by another party to be theft, and would call the police. He equated this to stealing an A-board sign from in front of a business.>>
Wow, that is pretty intense.
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hey Burks, you're so grumpy i think even mr. wilson from 'dennis the meanace' would tell you to chill out! if i'm ever out on a walk and see a guy muttering to himself whilst tearing down signs, or shaking his fist at kids in a playground, i'll be sure to say hi to you!
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I don't mutter to myself that I'm aware of anyway and my walking doesn't take me near any of the playgrounds. Who's Mr. Wilson? Part of the city code is no advertising and that the date of posting is PRINTED on the lower right hand corner. Posters for lost pet, items, etc. stay up for a while on "my" block...about two weeks but I've seen advertisers poster over them too.
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Burks, the code does not say anything about "no advertising." In fact, in the SDOT rules regarding the posting of signs, a "sign" is defined as "A medium used or intended to be used to attract attention to the subject matter for advertising, identification or informative purposes." Emphasis mine.
If you are still confused about this issue, please see SMC 15.48.105 where posters are authorized, and where SDOT is authorized to make rules about posters, and SDOT Director's Rule 02-02 where those rules are stated and where the above definition appears.
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My bad...the date of posting belongs on the lower LEFT hand corner.
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All Blue Moon posters using glue, (NOT ALLOWED), from Sunnyside Ave. to Wallingford Ave have been reported to the city. We'll see how long it takes to do things the "proper" way. Hoping BM gets a bill.
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Now hoping "Jumbo" gets a bill. Their event is today so they have 10 days to remove the posters that were illegaly glued to every pole on both sides of N.45th between Burke Ave N. and Wallingford Ave. N. Glad they left "my" territory, (the 2300 block), alone.
Does anyone know what that tractor/snowplow looking thing is that's everywhere and the organization behind it? They need to get a BIG bill! I've seen that garbage as far away as eastern Washington. -
Went down Pine St. yesterday from 15th to Broadway and OMFG! Glad we don't have wooden poles on 45th. I did move one of the Wallingford Walks posters so it wasn't facing auto traffic, a violation of the guidelines. It will be removed late Sunday.
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